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En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.5.0
Sylvestre [Membre]
@teh 1
> what's the general reason why everything won't compile on Clang?
There are various reasons:
* bad code that gcc accepts
* non standard C code accepted by gcc (variable length array for example)
* -Wall (+ -Werror) does not enable the same set of warnings
* clang is C99 by default, not gcc.
* etc
> what's the general reason why everything won't compile on Clang?
There are various reasons:
* bad code that gcc accepts
* non standard C code accepted by gcc (variable length array for example)
* -Wall (+ -Werror) does not enable the same set of warnings
* clang is C99 by default, not gcc.
* etc


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.5.0
teh 1 [Visiteur]
Out of pure intellectual curiosity, what's the general reason why everything won't compile on Clang? Is it that GCC ignores errors and alows non-standard code? Or is it Clang that didn't implement everything according to standards? (In terms of C and C++ standards)


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.5.0
Dirkjan Ochtman [Visiteur]
You might be interested in the Gentoo tracker for Clang-specific failures:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408963
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408963


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.5.0
Hussam [Visiteur]
Amazing decrease from 9.5% to 5.7%.
I guess it will be possible to compile a full Linux distribution with clang in only a few years.
I guess it will be possible to compile a full Linux distribution with clang in only a few years.


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.5.0
Oussama [Visiteur]
Very nice work Sylvestre.
:)
:)


En réponse à: Debian Twitter accounts are back
Sylvestre [Membre]
Aaron, Planet Debian has already an account:
https://twitter.com/planetdebian
Vincent, why not but it would help to get that in a better format (RSS, XML or RFC 822 format).
https://twitter.com/planetdebian
Vincent, why not but it would help to get that in a better format (RSS, XML or RFC 822 format).


En réponse à: Debian Twitter accounts are back
Aaron Toponce [Visiteur]
A Debian Planet feed would be great also. I don't know if this exists already, however.


En réponse à: Debian Twitter accounts are back
Vincent [Visiteur]
Having an account for new Debian maintainer [1] would be cool, I guess!
[1] https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/new-maintainers.cgi
[1] https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/new-maintainers.cgi


En réponse à: Changes Firefox 29 beta2 to beta3
Harsh86 [Visiteur]
Thank you for doing this. I see that a lot of people find it confusing why there isnt a change log between beta releases.


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.4
Andrés González Cantú [Visiteur]
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00247.html


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.4
Sylvestre [Membre]
Amazon gives 10 000 US$/year to Debian for such experiment.
We are building, for now, just for amd64. There are still so much work to do. It would be a mistake to try tackling every issues at the same time.
We are building, for now, just for amd64. There are still so much work to do. It would be a mistake to try tackling every issues at the same time.


En réponse à: Rebuild of Debian using Clang 3.4
ludo [Visiteur]
What is "AWS donation" ?
Are you only building x86 or other arch too ?
Are you only building x86 or other arch too ?


En réponse à: Hello Planet Mozilla
Sylvestre [Membre]
Sorry, I missed your comment.
I am not planning to do that soon but that would be nice.
By the way, clang is already the compiler used to be Firefox under Mac OS X.
I am not planning to do that soon but that would be nice.
By the way, clang is already the compiler used to be Firefox under Mac OS X.


En réponse à: Some updates on llvm.org/apt/
Seb.F [Visiteur]
Thx again,
I wish I could help but I have no time right now.
I wish I could help but I have no time right now.


En réponse à: Some updates on llvm.org/apt/
sobkas [Visiteur]
clang-modernize-3.5_3.5~svn202666-1~exp1_amd64.deb 03-Mar-2014 09:37 3.1M
clang-modernize-3.5_3.5~svn202688-1~exp1_i386.deb 03-Mar-2014 09:37 3.3M
Why this two have different version numbers?
clang-modernize-3.5_3.5~svn202688-1~exp1_i386.deb 03-Mar-2014 09:37 3.3M
Why this two have different version numbers?


En réponse à: Some updates on llvm.org/apt/
Sylvestre [Membre]
@Seb: For now, you cannot install both clang 3.4 & 3.5.
I reported this bug:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736057
and I will be happy to mentor someone to fix that bug.
I reported this bug:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736057
and I will be happy to mentor someone to fix that bug.


En réponse à: Some updates on llvm.org/apt/
Seb.F [Visiteur]
Thank you for this update.
Somehow I can't figure out how to install clang 3.4 and 3.5 in parallel.
When I try installing clang 3.5 apt says it will replace clang-3.4 (same for clang-modernize-3.4 lldb-3.4)
I run on ubuntu saucy.
Do you know if can be done ?
Somehow I can't figure out how to install clang 3.4 and 3.5 in parallel.
When I try installing clang 3.5 apt says it will replace clang-3.4 (same for clang-modernize-3.4 lldb-3.4)
I run on ubuntu saucy.
Do you know if can be done ?


En réponse à: Hello Planet Mozilla
Rogério Brito [Visiteur]
Hi, Sylvestre.
Congrats on the new job. Just a speculative thing: do you plan on experimenting with compilation/speed comparisons of firefox/iceweasel with clang against gcc?
I guess that this would be a super nice thing to know about the browsers.
Before I do something like this, would you anticipate any improvement at all from excluding features from firefox (e.g., accessibility features, parental controls etc.) as is advertised by this unofficial build for windows:
http://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml
?
Thanks for any insight,
Rogério.
Congrats on the new job. Just a speculative thing: do you plan on experimenting with compilation/speed comparisons of firefox/iceweasel with clang against gcc?
I guess that this would be a super nice thing to know about the browsers.
Before I do something like this, would you anticipate any improvement at all from excluding features from firefox (e.g., accessibility features, parental controls etc.) as is advertised by this unofficial build for windows:
http://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml
?
Thanks for any insight,
Rogério.


En réponse à: Clang 3.3 and Debian
Hussam Al-Tayeb [Visiteur]
any plans for a test rebuild with clang 3.4?


En réponse à: Include What You Use - Yet a new cool tool in Debian.
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [Visiteur]
Thanks much for the mention. Useful tool.


En réponse à: LLVM Debian/Ubuntu nightly packages
Sylvestre [Membre]
Yes: --enable-experimental-targets=R600
Search for ../configure in:
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-llvm/llvm-toolchain/branches/snapshot/debian/rules?view=markup for the list of argument
Search for ../configure in:
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-llvm/llvm-toolchain/branches/snapshot/debian/rules?view=markup for the list of argument


En réponse à: LLVM Debian/Ubuntu nightly packages
sobkas [Visiteur]
Does Radeon backend is enabled?


En réponse à: Some more cool stuff with LLVM/Clang
Jake [Visiteur]
"even if the error is obvious", make that plural. You can see it in the error report: "..is located 5 bytes inside of 80-byte region..". Why an 80 byte region for a 10 char array? Because it's allocating 10 char pointers, which, on 64-bit architecture, are 8 byte. The malloc should get (10 * sizeof(char)).


En réponse à: Some more cool stuff with LLVM/Clang
Robert [Visiteur]
Just as long as we don't get loads of half baked patches to "quieten AddressSanitizer" now (a la OpenSSL).


En réponse à: Some more cool stuff with LLVM/Clang
1052 [Visiteur]
It is a Google development, and it will also be available in GCC 4.8


En réponse à: Mini Debconf & merchandising
Elessar [Visiteur]
@MJ Ray: Fairtrade, I do not know, which is not particularly reassuring, but the short-sleeved polos are indicated to respect at least a textile quality standard called ?Eco-Tex?. The long-sleeved ones are not indicated to respect any specific standard though?


En réponse à: Mini Debconf & merchandising
Sylvestre [Membre]
MJ Ray: I don't know, sorry :/


En réponse à: Mini Debconf & merchandising
MJ Ray [Visiteur]
Is the cloth fairtrade? Does it avoid sweatshop cotton?
I wrote about this a while ago in http://www.news.software.coop/are-your-free-software-t-shirts-ethical/112/ and I'd be interested in a bluff if it's ethical and available to ship to England.
Oh and how do I tell this site to email me on new comments?
I wrote about this a while ago in http://www.news.software.coop/are-your-free-software-t-shirts-ethical/112/ and I'd be interested in a bluff if it's ethical and available to ship to England.
Oh and how do I tell this site to email me on new comments?


En réponse à: Mini Debconf & merchandising
Elessar [Visiteur]
For those of you that may notice the very low quantity of rugby shirts we will have for sale, this is by design: as this kind of cloth is not very usual in our kind of community, and quite more expensive than the usual tee-shirts, we chose to get only a few of them to test how they will be appreciated.
Now, if it appears they are appreciated, do not worry, we will have more next time! :-)
Now, if it appears they are appreciated, do not worry, we will have more next time! :-)


En réponse à: libc++: New C++ standard library in Debian
Sylvestre [Membre]
@Julien, it works for me ?! (both reader + planet)


En réponse à: libc++: New C++ standard library in Debian
Julian Andres Klode [Visiteur]
Nice post, but something is wrong with the planet.debian.org integration or with Google reader, as that leads me to
http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/xmlsrv/805@http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog
(your guid) when trying to open the blog, as reader seems to ignore and only respect elements.
http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/xmlsrv/805@http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog
(your guid) when trying to open the blog, as reader seems to ignore and only respect elements.


En réponse à: libc++: New C++ standard library in Debian
Benjamin Kay [Visiteur]
Congratulations! This is very helpful to those of us developing with C++11 and Clang on Debian!


En réponse à: Interview in FLOSS for Science
Valio [Visiteur]
Rss encoding is broken :(


En réponse à: Who is in control of LLVM/Clang ?
Nadav [Visiteur]
I think that the number of commits is multiplied by 3.
Also, "Eli Friedman" is with Apple. "Owen Anderson" is with Apple. "Bruno Cardoso Lopes" is academic, AFAIK. "Reid Spencer" did most of his work before joining AutoESL (which is now Xilinx, I think).
Also, "Eli Friedman" is with Apple. "Owen Anderson" is with Apple. "Bruno Cardoso Lopes" is academic, AFAIK. "Reid Spencer" did most of his work before joining AutoESL (which is now Xilinx, I think).


En réponse à: Who is in control of LLVM/Clang ?
jon [Visiteur]
The desperation in your voice is funny point.
I think you know perfectly well what the point is and your response proves it is valid!
I think you know perfectly well what the point is and your response proves it is valid!


En réponse à: Who is in control of LLVM/Clang ?
point [Visiteur]
What is your point?
LIcense is owned by U of Illinois
Code owners are all employed by Apple.
None of the Google employees have contributed
any significant code aside from Richard Smith.
Apple also owns WebKit tradmark, OpenCL, libdispath,
Objective C.
Once again what is your point?


En réponse à: Who is in control of LLVM/Clang ?
Sylvestre [Membre]
No, I didn't. I am using the email addresses registered in the LLVM VCS.


En réponse à: Who is in control of LLVM/Clang ?
glandium [Visiteur]
Did you also account for change of employment for those @gmail, etc.?


En réponse à: llvm & clang 3.1 in Debian unstable + GSoC
Samuel Orr [Visiteur]
Excellent. I have been trying out clang for a while as a replacement for gcc. It would be great to see better support for it in Debian.


En réponse à: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang
Witek [Visiteur]
Can you provide search by package name or source package name on clang.debian.net? It will make easier to check if packages I care is affected. Also package size comparission (before and after compressing into .deb, and default ones from Debian) of this packages which successed would be usefull.
Another question: what architecture you was using? amd64? How about i386? It should be equally easy (in terms of access to building virtual machines), and when considering metrics like package (binary) sizes changes beetween clang and gcc, it can give better insight into any changes.
Another question: what architecture you was using? amd64? How about i386? It should be equally easy (in terms of access to building virtual machines), and when considering metrics like package (binary) sizes changes beetween clang and gcc, it can give better insight into any changes.


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
Manuel [Visiteur]
the sun-java6 package seems also to be updated/available here :
https://github.com/rraptorr/sun-java6
https://github.com/rraptorr/sun-java6


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
mirabilos [Visiteur]
This is… well, not great, but useful. Not great because, in my heart, I’m fully behind throwing it out. Useful because, to update mksh in Android AOSP, I need to be able to build and test-boot it – and Google is still depending on Sun J2SDK 6 for that.
I tried lenny’s package, but first had to patch it to accept two-digit patchlevels and amd64 packages, and THEN ran into the problem that update-java-alternatives didn’t like the result. At all. If this tool version does it better, I’m bought.
Merci!
I tried lenny’s package, but first had to patch it to accept two-digit patchlevels and amd64 packages, and THEN ran into the problem that update-java-alternatives didn’t like the result. At all. If this tool version does it better, I’m bought.
Merci!


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
Sylvestre [Membre]
Julian: apt-get install icedtea-web
See:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icedtea-web.html
See:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icedtea-web.html


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
Julian Andres Klode [Visiteur]
Not only corporations, also everyone wanting to use applets basically needs Oracle's Java build, as the free plugin basically does not work with many sites.


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
gebi [Visiteur]
Thx for bringing java-package back!
Btw... i update the sun-java6 package regularly to make it work with the newest java 6 version.
https://github.com/gebi/sun-java6
Btw... i update the sun-java6 package regularly to make it work with the newest java 6 version.
https://github.com/gebi/sun-java6


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
Sylvestre LEDRU [Membre]
Ubuntu is regularly synchronizing against Debian... So, it should come sooner or later.


En réponse à: java-package: Replacement of sun-java6
aim [Visiteur]
any plans to include this into ubuntu?


En réponse à: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang
Marc Driftmeyer [Visiteur]
All this whining about LLVM/Clang. What a joke. The quality of architecture alone, nevermind the contributions by hundreds of architect level quality developers of compiler expertise is producing a far superior product to GCC.
You get all of this for free.
You get CUPS for free. Nothing is stopping any Distribution of Linux to pair up the quality of CUPS with that of Apple.
You get all of this for free.
You get CUPS for free. Nothing is stopping any Distribution of Linux to pair up the quality of CUPS with that of Apple.


En réponse à: Rebuild of the Debian archive with clang
Kartik [Visiteur]
dd-list will be cool addition :)
